Fugazi Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Decades Live In Buenos Aires (2019) recorded on September 30 2018 in Buenos Aires during the Decades World Tour (2018) Track list (with relevant threads when available) Live performance (DVD/BR) Swanheart End Of All Hope Wish I Had An Angel 10th Man Down Come Cover Me Gethsemane Élan Sacrament Of Wilderness Deep Silent Complete Dead's Boy Poem Elvenjig (Note 1) Elvenpath I Want My Tears Back Amaranth The Carpenter The Kinslayer Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean Nemo Slaying The Dreamer The Greatest Show On Earth Ghost Love Score Note: "Elvenjig" is a previously unreleased folk-sounding instrumental piece serving as an introduction to "Elvenpath". From the band: I can find very little label promotion or interviews related to this release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 I was curious about mentions on the Internet of "Elvenjig" being a cover and not an original composition. There are claims that the instrumental was originally written by IONA, a folk-rock-prog band with which Troy started collaborating in about 1990 and of which he became an official member in 1995. He left the band in 2009, but the song "Jigs" was released in 2002, at a point where Troy was already being credited for playing uilleann pipes, low whistle, tin whistle, bouzouki, acoustic and electric guitars and vocals with IONA. "Jigs" is a much longer piece of music but one can clearly hear similarities with "Elvenjig" especially from 2:30 to 3:57, after which "Jigs" evolves into a different tune. IONA - Jigs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELIduockzM "Jigs" was initially released on the IONA album "The River Flows: Anthology Vol. 1" (details here) which suggests that it was composed somewhat earlier. Actually the album liner mentions that "Jigs" was one of a number of popular tracks played during the band concerts in 2000 and 2001. However, "Jigs" itself appears to be an adaptation of an old traditional folk song that Troy rearranged (only Internet talk here, no supporting evidence), so it wouldn't be a case of Nightwish covering the IONA song but rather of reinterpreting the same source material. Anyway, I thought you would enjoy this little exploration of Troy's troubled past! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartanguy83 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Yeah, there are definitely similarities. Any band members from IONA complain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Spartanguy83 said: Yeah, there are definitely similarities. Any band members from IONA complain? Not to my knowledge, it was more of a discussion between fans. IONA as a band hasn't been active for many years, although individual members appear to keep busy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Botterell Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 As I understand it 'jigs' and also 'reels' are traditional folk music standards and form the basis of many tunes. The repeating part of Elvenjig, once they all get going, is certainly a jig. Iona, and just about every other traditional folk band, would have some form of jig in their music. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 It's possible for both songs to have been written at least in part by Troy, using the same jig and therefore ending up sounding very similar for the most part. I couldn't find anything on the internet specifically about Elvenjig though. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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