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9 hours ago, mabla said:

About the filming.

There were great shots on the screens on both sides of the stage during the concert. I tried to find the camera's but couldn't find any. Seems to me that they made use of several small camera's stick-on various positions. 

I imagine the result might look a bit like the Wembley show on 'Vehicle Of Spirit' -- as opposed to the Tampere show from the same DVD -- with the cameras mostly looking up to the stage instead of down. It does give off a different vibe, more intimidating. But it may take a year or more before any of this is released... I could see a live DVD launching late 2023 during the lead-up to the new album release early in 2024.

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On 11/30/2022 at 7:55 PM, Fugazi said:

I imagine the result might look a bit like the Wembley show on 'Vehicle Of Spirit' -- as opposed to the Tampare show from the same DVD -- with the cameras mostly looking up to the stage instead of down. It does give off a different vibe, more intimidating. But it may take a year or more before any of this is released... I could see a live DVD launching late 2023 during the lead-up to the new album release early in 2024.

I wonder what they would call the live DVD on its release. "Harvest Live"? Maybe "Live Noise from Amsterdam"?

By the way, the Paris, France setlist.

Paris 2022-11-30:

  1. Noise  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLEmrTISONg
  2. Storytime
  3. Tribal
  4. Élan
  5. Sleeping Sun
  6. 7 Days to the Wolves
  7. Dark Chest of Wonders
  8. Harvest
  9. I Want My Tears Back
  10. Nemo
  11. How's the Heart? (acoustic)
  12. Shoemaker
  13. Last Ride of the Day  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSX33JWujtw
  14. Ghost Love Score
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAdoV-ynuXM
  16. Ad Astra

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRVC5VsiZLwT1g8ZJqfEy0xg

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54 minutes ago, Moondance said:

I wonder what they would call the live DVD on its release. "Harvest Live"? Maybe "Live Noise from Amsterdam"?

It will probably be something boring like "Human Nature - Live in Amsterdam"... 🙄😋

But I have more ideas:

  • "Another Evening With Nightwish, Live Show from the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam 2022" (going for a longer title than "Virtual Live Show From The Islanders Arms 2021")
  • "Windmilling in Amsterdam"
  • "Wooden Shoemaker Live"
  • "While Your Tu-Lips Are Still Red"
  • "Live with The Flying Dutchwoman (and her band)"
  • "Made in Amsterdam (and no other place)"

I'm showing myself out now.

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By the looks of it, Düsseldorf got the same setlist as Paris. The German lessons from Sing Meinen Song didn't go to waste!

Düsseldorf 2022-12-01:

  1. Noise  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLPbtFF4msg
  2. Storytime  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nujp5LztkI
  3. Tribal
  4. Élan
  5. Sleeping Sun  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaO1Ds8zaLE
  6. 7 Days to the Wolves  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzbkGDobb5I
  7. Dark Chest of Wonders  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjLFPNWOxk
  8. Harvest
  9. I Want My Tears Back
  10. Nemo  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrHDcA-LQgk
  11. How's the Heart? (acoustic)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntNCcYYWBfk
  12. Shoemaker
  13. Last Ride of the Day  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fqvT3Tyy1Q
  14. Ghost Love Score  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMBJTQQlxZk
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth  
  16. Ad Astra

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRVTPY3w2C-K4BM5BVIi63IF

No time to rest, tomorrow night Luxembourg!

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Setlist is up:

Esch-sur-Alzette 2022-12-02:

  1. Noise  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcHfnE-ypWc
  2. Storytime
  3. Tribal
  4. Élan  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Wu1i1ZU2I
  5. Sleeping Sun  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsJM8m7S83w
  6. 7 Days to the Wolves
  7. Dark Chest of Wonders
  8. Harvest
  9. I Want My Tears Back
  10. Nemo
  11. How's the Heart? (acoustic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52BSGGiyazI
  12. Shoemaker
  13. Last Ride of the Day  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YUxIZ1xtRk
  14. Ghost Love Score
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPJzNIxi_uw (partial)
  16. Ad Astra  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG5FerenckQ

Playlist:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRUHd3QdZK0tg1PJc6cSK_jH

No videos from Luxembourg on YouTube as yet. Next stop Vienna after a day rest.

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10 hours ago, Fugazi said:

First time I notice the on-screen special FX on Floor during 7 Days... She looks like she's on fire! 🔥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzbkGDobb5I

Yep, the played sometimes with added effects on the side screens.... and occasionally projected these images also on the big central screens. Was nice to view ☺️

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Show is over, same setlist.

Vienna 2022-12-04:

  1. Noise
  2. Storytime
  3. Tribal
  4. Élan
  5. Sleeping Sun
  6. 7 Days to the Wolves
  7. Dark Chest of Wonders
  8. Harvest
  9. I Want My Tears Back
  10. Nemo
  11. How's the Heart? (acoustic)
  12. Shoemaker
  13. Last Ride of the Day 
  14. Ghost Love Score
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth 
  16. Ad Astra  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeF70P-E_EA

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRV5-lWOU0eraO_-N5VmW8bO

Tomorrow, back to Germany for a show in Munich.

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Looks like the shows in Asia have been postponed... again! But fortunately, it isn't due to what was going for the past two years. Floor Jansen has to undergo radiation therapy, which means no shows in Asia for January. However, a statement has been made that the team are working to reschedule the tour dates.

Also, Nightwish are set to perform in Greece for the Release Athens Festival on June 7, 2023. Back in Greece again after a long while. I know a Lithuania fanpage on FB that are getting hopeful that there will be a show in Lithuania in June.

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Exciting news, Sahara is back in the setlist, replacing Sleeping Sun! Ok I know it's not Pan that some of us wished for, but still a song I like a lot and any variety is more than welcome!

So we now have a second song from Dark Passion Play returning to the setlist (along with 7 Days To The Wolves), and with the departure of Sleeping Sun the oldest songs in the setlist now are from the Once album (!) -- unless She Is My Sin, Bless The Child or Ever Dream make a comeback.

There are also rumours of 'Our Decades In The Sun' eventually being played live, which wouldn't be such a stretch since Floor sang it solo a lot, so let's see what happens next!

Munich 2022-12-05:

  1. Noise
  2. Storytime
  3. Tribal
  4. Élan
  5. Sahara  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLePdiMd1Ak
  6. 7 Days to the Wolves
  7. Dark Chest of Wonders
  8. Harvest
  9. I Want My Tears Back
  10. Nemo
  11. How's the Heart? (acoustic)
  12. Shoemaker
  13. Last Ride of the Day 
  14. Ghost Love Score
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth 
  16. Ad Astra 

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRUWP2FP7I5ladav9IE6hR1P

Tomorrow Milano, then back to Germany! 😵 Who planned this tour anyway? 😆

It's not clear to me from the band's statement if the Asian shows are postponed to later in 2023, or to the next tour altogether? Also, will this also compromise Nightwish's presence at 70000 Tons Of Metal, at the end of January?

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No changes to the setlist tonight in Italy, except that Sahara was played later during the show, after How's The Heart.

Milano 2022-12-06:

  1. Noise
  2. Storytime
  3. Tribal
  4. Élan
  5. 7 Days to the Wolves
  6. Dark Chest of Wonders
  7. Harvest
  8. I Want My Tears Back
  9. Nemo
  10. How's the Heart? (acoustic)
  11. Sahara
  12. Shoemaker
  13. Last Ride of the Day 
  14. Ghost Love Score
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth 
  16. Ad Astra 

Playlist:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRXp-9mFE__mYl43qi6dRP_D

Next up is Frankfurt in 3 days.

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On 12/6/2022 at 4:52 PM, Fugazi said:

It's not clear to me from the band's statement if the Asian shows are postponed to later in 2023, or to the next tour altogether? Also, will this also compromise Nightwish's presence at 70000 Tons Of Metal, at the end of January?

I was wondering this as well. Selfishly, it's brought back a tiny little sliver of hope that Australia (and maybe even my little New Zealand) might be added on if those Asian dates are rescheduled for later this year.

I know that's not likely, though. It's the hope that gets you!

Sahara coming back is an awesome surprise.

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Well judging by the videos and photos from that leg of the 2013 tour, the band immensely enjoyed their time in OZ-NZ so I'm sure a return is in the cards. Floor even mentioned Australia in January 2023 at some point last year before it was nixed, so it was probably being seriously considered. Now she booked some solo shows so I don't know what time is left for Australasian dates but who knows?

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Reading Tuomas' end of November interview, according to him, the Amsterdam shows were recorded but there will be no DVD. 😢 The band will instead release the music from that show at some point, though the idea of recording came two weeks before the shows. With that, "The Phantom of the Opera" performed in Amsterdam was Floor's idea, after the positive reception given at her performance at Beste Zangers.

http://metalchestofwonders.com/en/interview/tuomas-holopainen-nightwish-2022-11-30

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Setlist for the Frankfurt show.

Frankfurt 2022-12-09:

  1. Noise
  2. Storytime
  3. Tribal
  4. Élan
  5. 7 Days to the Wolves
  6. Dark Chest of Wonders  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROJVlC-ULdE
  7. Harvest
  8. I Want My Tears Back
  9. Nemo  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM4ihK89uUo
  10. How's the Heart? (acoustic)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsw-cfeHX5w
  11. Sahara  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFl0Aqas_-0
  12. Shoemaker
  13. Last Ride of the Day 
  14. Ghost Love Score
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth 
  16. Ad Astra 

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRUB6bP-6aqV0VpHThv7WQuP

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9 hours ago, Moondance said:

Reading Tuomas' end of November interview, according to him, the Amsterdam shows were recorded but there will be no DVD. 😢 The band will instead release the music from that show at some point, though the idea of recording came two weeks before the shows. With that, "The Phantom of the Opera" performed in Amsterdam was Floor's idea, after the positive reception given at her performance at Beste Zangers.

http://metalchestofwonders.com/en/interview/tuomas-holopainen-nightwish-2022-11-30

That's disappointing, but it does explain the very limited filming equipment they used. They could still use some material as bonus tracks on a DVD recorded later during the tour, like they did for Vehicle Of Spirit. They could film Kitee for instance...

7 hours ago, obrien said:

Band was good in Frankfurt, Troy did a great job in his singing parts. But the acoustic of the "Festhalle" was bad. So bad, that I'm planning to visit Prague at 21th also.. 

Welcome to the forums, obrien! Sorry to hear that the sound was poor at your show, sometimes it changes a lot depending on where you're sitting/standing in the venue. Prague could be extra special though, last show of the European tour!

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First echoes from the Bamberg show, it would appear that they didn't play Sahara, but the quickest setlist.fm editors are wrong half of the time! 😁

Edit: Yeah they did play Sahara!

Bamberg 2022-12-10:

  1. Noise  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzkFNufAs54
  2. Storytime  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17Vcp6SA3k
  3. Tribal  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z8i19TAr4c
  4. Élan
  5. 7 Days to the Wolves
  6. Dark Chest of Wonders 
  7. Harvest
  8. I Want My Tears Back
  9. Nemo  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AazOghdNXhM
  10. How's the Heart? (acoustic)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz5FczZrF1M
  11. Sahara  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGGDs5edYh8
  12. Shoemaker  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxGhWI_Qpf0
  13. Last Ride of the Day  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCjZZ0J6fvs
  14. Ghost Love Score  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFxxRBR1Y0M
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth 
  16. Ad Astra 

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRX_rLsHPKAtEWFoYBTONNkW

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On 12/10/2022 at 1:21 AM, Fugazi said:

That's disappointing, but it does explain the very limited filming equipment they used. They could still use some material as bonus tracks on a DVD recorded later during the tour, like they did for Vehicle Of Spirit. They could film Kitee for instance...

I was thinking that! I can see them recording the Kitee show for this tour.

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21 hours ago, Fugazi said:

Indeed, and if they're considering special guests or special songs in Kitee then a DVD would sell like hot cakes!

I'd practically be begging for them to play "Pan" or "Beauty of the Beast". if it comes to special songs. For special guests, I can see Marko Hietala, Jukka Nevalainen or Sami Vanska joining to perform at least one song like the 20th anniversary concert back in 2016, though I admit it would be cool to see Tony Kakko joining for a performance of "Astral Romance" if they perform that one.

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On 12/12/2022 at 1:40 PM, Moondance said:

I'd practically be begging for them to play "Pan" or "Beauty of the Beast". if it comes to special songs. For special guests, I can see Marko Hietala, Jukka Nevalainen or Sami Vanska joining to perform at least one song like the 20th anniversary concert back in 2016, though I admit it would be cool to see Tony Kakko joining for a performance of "Astral Romance" if they perform that one.

🤩 Any of your ideas would be great, now put them all together, call Tarja too while we're at it, and party like it's 1999 again! 😁

Seriously, it would be a great opportunity to celebrate Tuomas playing for his hometown, but I doubt they will go back to the oldies repertoire... But Marko singing Endlessness, that would make my day too!

Anyway, another surprise in Hamburg tonight, the long awaited (by some, anyway 😁) first live performance of PAN Our Decades In The Sun! Can't wait to see videos. I wonder if it will sound any different from the solo Floor version.

Hamburg 2022-12-12:

  1. Noise 
  2. Storytime 
  3. Tribal 
  4. Élan
  5. 7 Days to the Wolves
  6. Dark Chest of Wonders 
  7. Harvest
  8. I Want My Tears Back
  9. Sahara  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GBzPvRyT5Y
  10. Our Decades In The Sun (acoustic)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNep-Dwx5IE&t=324s
  11. Nemo 
  12. Shoemaker 
  13. Last Ride of the Day 
  14. Ghost Love Score  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5mBMRqE4Ds
  15. The Greatest Show on Earth  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVyEEtsj6ss
  16. Ad Astra 

Full show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD0d-DtSmXE

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX-JP-lohRXSHWOqrQkieiuZS8Q2R1rI

Edit: Sahara and Nemo might have been switched around. Oh wait, it's an acoustic version of ODITS? 👀

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In other news, the forum mailbox was 'spammed' by this:

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70000TONS OF METAL ( info@70000tons.com ) said:

Hey there Every Tale True!

Did you know... NIGHTWISH will be performing onboard 70000TONS OF METAL 2023.

If you would like to learn more, feel free to contact us here or at info@70000tons.com.

Cheers,

your 70000TONS OF METAL team 🍻🤘

So I guess the NW cruise is still happening despite Floor's treatments in January? 🤔

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